Comments on: Rabbis Against Zionism

]]> By: moni http://alternativeconservative.com/2009/01/20/rabbis-against-zionism/comment-page-1/#comment-199 moni Thu, 07 May 2009 11:59:02 +0000 http://alternativeconservative.com/?p=80#comment-199 It would be fine if honest Jews wanted to be masters of their own destiny and I would support that. However, to ethnically cleanse another country is just plain fascism. Not only has Israel ethnically cleansed its own territory of 700,000 Palestinians, it is now ethnic cleansing the West Bank. More than 40% of the West Bank is in Zionist hands and Bibi Netanyahu makes it quite plain he will do the rest as well. Every day Palestinians are being driven from their lands. The Zionists have no moral conscience, their original philosphy came from atheism. American protestants have the religious card played on them all the time, when atheists pretend they are the real people of G-d. It would be fine if honest Jews wanted to be masters of their own destiny and I would support that. However, to ethnically cleanse another country is just plain fascism. Not only has Israel ethnically cleansed its own territory of 700,000 Palestinians, it is now ethnic cleansing the West Bank. More than 40% of the West Bank is in Zionist hands and Bibi Netanyahu makes it quite plain he will do the rest as well.

Every day Palestinians are being driven from their lands. The Zionists have no moral conscience, their original philosphy came from atheism. American protestants have the religious card played on them all the time, when atheists pretend they are the real people of
G-d.

]]> By: Gene http://alternativeconservative.com/2009/01/20/rabbis-against-zionism/comment-page-1/#comment-198 Gene Sat, 25 Apr 2009 05:55:16 +0000 http://alternativeconservative.com/?p=80#comment-198 Zionism is the movement to create a state where Jews-like all people, can be masters of their own destiny. That is, that Jews have a right to sovereignty and national self-determination. Given the history of the oppression and persecution of Jews, perhaps no other people deserve their own nation more, yet for some unknown (or known...) reason Zionism is the only national liberation movement that is constantly demonized and branded "racist." This is fueled mostly by complete ignorance of the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict. For one thing, Zionism is often characterized as "European colonialism" or "imperialism". The obvious contradictions lie in the simple fact that 1) most Jewish Israelis (over 20% of Israelis are non-Jews) are directly descended from Jews that were EXPELLED from Arab and Islamic countries (i.e. Morocco, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria, Libya, etc.). 2) Israeli Jews that descend from Europe are almost all either Holocaust survivors or people who left before the Holocaust and almost certainly would have perished if they had stayed, and therefore were ESCAPING Europe, not colonizing Palestine on its behalf. 3) Israeli Jews have no other citizenship (mostly) and therefore are concerned with their own state, and not with imperialism on behalf of another entity. 4) All Jews, whether European or Middle Eastern, descend from the Israelites that lived in the land of Israel/Palestine 2000 years ago, and Jews have a religious and cultural tradition that consistently emphasizes the connection of Jews to ONLY that particular slice of land. Therefore, although anti-Zionism is not necessarily anti-Semitism, it is very often a thin veil for it. Zionism is the movement to create a state where Jews-like all people, can be masters of their own destiny. That is, that Jews have a right to sovereignty and national self-determination. Given the history of the oppression and persecution of Jews, perhaps no other people deserve their own nation more, yet for some unknown (or known…) reason Zionism is the only national liberation movement that is constantly demonized and branded “racist.” This is fueled mostly by complete ignorance of the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict. For one thing, Zionism is often characterized as “European colonialism” or “imperialism”. The obvious contradictions lie in the simple fact that 1) most Jewish Israelis (over 20% of Israelis are non-Jews) are directly descended from Jews that were EXPELLED from Arab and Islamic countries (i.e. Morocco, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria, Libya, etc.). 2) Israeli Jews that descend from Europe are almost all either Holocaust survivors or people who left before the Holocaust and almost certainly would have perished if they had stayed, and therefore were ESCAPING Europe, not colonizing Palestine on its behalf. 3) Israeli Jews have no other citizenship (mostly) and therefore are concerned with their own state, and not with imperialism on behalf of another entity. 4) All Jews, whether European or Middle Eastern, descend from the Israelites that lived in the land of Israel/Palestine 2000 years ago, and Jews have a religious and cultural tradition that consistently emphasizes the connection of Jews to ONLY that particular slice of land. Therefore, although anti-Zionism is not necessarily anti-Semitism, it is very often a thin veil for it.

]]> By: Rashaa http://alternativeconservative.com/2009/01/20/rabbis-against-zionism/comment-page-1/#comment-191 Rashaa Wed, 18 Mar 2009 05:42:41 +0000 http://alternativeconservative.com/?p=80#comment-191 Salaam -shalom Peace Just iiiiiiiiiiiiii want tooooo saaaaay ooooone wooooord: Allllllllllll Of Usssss =One Salaam -shalom Peace
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]]> By: Don’t Trust the US Mainstream News | Utah Alternative Conservative http://alternativeconservative.com/2009/01/20/rabbis-against-zionism/comment-page-1/#comment-150 Don’t Trust the US Mainstream News | Utah Alternative Conservative Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:30:00 +0000 http://alternativeconservative.com/?p=80#comment-150 [...] UK MP Sr. Gerald Kaufman who’s parents were Holocaust survivors actually claims the original Zionists were terrorists. Could he be right? Mind you Zionism is a political movement, not the Jewish [...] [...] UK MP Sr. Gerald Kaufman who’s parents were Holocaust survivors actually claims the original Zionists were terrorists. Could he be right? Mind you Zionism is a political movement, not the Jewish [...]

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